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Original von Morrison
I think the document you are looking for ist called "Abmeldebescheinigung". The seller should have this document so you better contact him.

Thilo

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Original von labete
Hi,

the seller must inform the local STRASSENVERKEHRSAMT about disactivating (by selling) his bike. He must bring his" licence plates " to get the licence marks removed and to recieve the ABMELDEBESCHEINIGUNG. He should know that, by the way.

You should have the KFZ SCHEIN (actually called ZULASSUNGSBESCHEINIGUNG TEIL I) which allows you to drive the vehicle and - most imported- the KFZ BRIEF ( now called ZULASSUNGSBESCHEINIGUNG TEIL II) which documents your ownership. Who owns the BRIEF, owns the vehicle.

Greets to Slovenia

labete

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Original von weelah
Hallo,

some 125 er Bikes get only an Betriebserlaubsnis - no KFZ Brief
or Zulassungsbescheinigung II.
Some Bike was for young people, who drive only 80 km/h - then they need only the Betriebserlaubis for driving - wenn the Bike goes faster than this it must get the ZulassungsbescheinigungII.
I hope it is ready iff I can tell you

Do you have the licence plate with stamps ???? - then can the Seller not give you the paper Abmeldebescheinigung.
Without your papers Betrieberlaubnis and the licence plate can´t the seller check out the bike in this country.
So I see´s a lot of problems if I understand it so.


Sorry for my terrible english - I think a good friend of mine will kill me wenn she read this - she teaches this language

Greets
Tina

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Original von weelah
O.k a few month ago I went to the Straßenverkehrsamt and
check out a car.
The Fahrzeugschein was marked , perhaps a stamp is inside.
I don´t now it jet.

That´s for me the Ameldebescheinigung.
The paper what you mean, that give the office some years ago - but not this time no longer.
The Fahrzeugschein was devaluated and got instead the Abmeldebescheinigung.
If the bike checked out in Gemany, than I think that the Fahrzeugschein is the really paper for you.

Now the question is, what your office for vehikels demanted
What says the officer what papers you need for licence in our own country.

When you take the bike in your country, you had to declare it by
custom(duty). Have you got any papers at the costoms office ?
I think you have all the papers you must got from the seller.
Cause thats the papers what you need for licence ( in Germany)
The seller can´t give you an Abmeldebescheinigung, because he´s got no one. In time wenn the office give up any Abmeldebescheinigungen
theyhave to confiscate the Fahrzeugschein.
You see, you have this paper and also its the right one.

Once that the seller can go for the office and ask for any papers - because his bike ( now yours ) got to export.
But that unknown for me.
Perhaps it helps you, when you tell your question to the office directly :

Straßenverkehrsamt

Hope I can help you a little bit

Good luck
tina

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Original von Morrison
There is some kind of adhesive label (round and with an emblem printed on) on the licence plate to show that the vehicle is allowed to be driven in public and the tax is payed. If you sell a bike, the Strassenverkehrsamt removes the label to void the licence plate. After that you can take the plate with you and put it in a cabinet if you want.
So you can have a Abmeldebescheinigung and the plates with you. I am not sure if the procedure for 125er bikes is the same (I never had one) but I think so.

Thilo

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Original von Schnute
Hello prevtzer,

on your scan from the Fahrzeugschein I read the german word "ungültig" which means, that this paper is not valid any more. So I think the former owner of your bike cancelled the registration.

But I think too that he has to give you more information about.

Like Tina said: Since 2005 the paper "Abmeldebescheinigung" doesn't exist! The cancelled Fahrzeugschein get marked and that's it.

Your bike was registered in the city or district of Hanover in the north of Germany.
These are the mailing adresses of the admission offices:
1. City of Hanover: kfz-zulassungsbehoerde@hannover-stadt.de
2. Region of Hanover: buergerbuero@region-hannover.de

Maybe they can tell you more about your bike and its registration.

Good luck
Ute